Comments on: RIA Frameworks

By: Glen Lipka

Glen Lipka — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:25:49 +0000

Read The Inmates are Running the Asylum. Engineers are usually not good interaction designers. Also, this was written over a year ago. The qooxdoo demo and showcase has changed dramatically in that year. I appreciate your insight though. Have a great day.

By: Me, myself and I

Me, myself and I — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:50:53 +0000

I don’t know what interaction.UI design you do, but I surely wouldn’t trust your professional skills if you say qooxdoo’s demo browser is bad. It’s targeted at programmers, not product managers, and it’s marvelous for that purpose. I used it, so this is not an opinion formed in 5 minutes of browsing. If you want something for managers, look at http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/showcase/.

Anyway, I’m inclined to disregard your review alltogether, since, as someone already put it, it’s … a nice fruit salad, resulting from putting apples and bananas in the same bowl.

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By: Alex Ilyin

Alex Ilyin — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:45:13 +0000

Hi, I happened to participate in development of enterprise level web framework. It uses Extjs and Asp.net ajax for presentation layer and MVP-like application model for business logic, if one is interested take a look at http://liveui.net

By: Rik Arends

Rik Arends — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:07:41 +0000

Check the opensource: http://www.ajax.org it has very nice demos and examples. Its still a bit hard to start with version 2.1 but upcoming 3.0 should solve all those issues. It will push ease of use and databinding to a whole new level surpassing XAML and MXML. 3.0 will be focussed on collaborative applications and an IDE is in development.

By: Glen Lipka

Glen Lipka — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:20:58 +0000

ExtJS has a great interaction design out of the box, so you dont need to build anything. Why not just write in binary? Because the less you need to program the better off your company will be.

By: Me, myself and I

Me, myself and I — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:47:12 +0000

Regarding Qooxdoo. Look at this page. http://demo.qooxdoo.org/current/demobrowser/

Tell me truthfully that the interaction design is good on this page. This is what I get paid to do and I say it’s not good IxD.

Well, I had a look. Can’t say there’s anything I as a programmer don’t like. For one, the fact that you can do RIAs without having to worry about CSS oddness in different browsers. But then again, if you’re CSS-savvy, you probably like playing with browser-dependant styles.

I honestly don’t get your argument. The ppl who did the demo browser are engineers, not interaction designers. It’s up to you to take what they did and build nice interfaces out of it.

By: Oleg

Oleg — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:05:55 +0000

You might also be interested to check dhtmlx library (dhtmlx.com). They offer a set of ui widgets with really nice list of features and good performance. It’s GPL, but the PRO version is commercial.

By: facildelembrar

facildelembrar — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:16:32 +0000

I did a quick comparison of some ria technologies (flash, flex, actionscript alone, silverlight, java + scenegraph and javafx). If someone is interested, you can find it here: http://my.opera.com/facildelembrar/blog/rias-comparison-part-2-simple-programs

By: Adam

Adam — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:14:42 +0000

Hi Glen, good seeing you at Dreamforce in SF. I mentioned Appcelerator (http://www.appcelerator.com/) as a RIA. They were founded in Atlanta (where we are) but just recently moved out to the valley. They are doing some good things.