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		<title>By: Glen Lipka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Lipka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure the list has become out of date since 2008 when it was posted. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the list has become out of date since 2008 when it was posted. <img src='http://commadot.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-26499</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a web application framework/toolkit, you may also look at dhtmlx: http://dhtmlx.com
Each UI control (like grid or treeview) can be used as a separate interface element or within a common application interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a web application framework/toolkit, you may also look at dhtmlx: <a href="http://dhtmlx.com" >http://dhtmlx.com</a><br />
Each UI control (like grid or treeview) can be used as a separate interface element or within a common application interface.</p>
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		<title>By: rjahn</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-16641</link>
		<dc:creator>rjahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another RIA framework, but not only RIA, is JVx. It supports Single Sourcing and has AddOns for Android devices.

There are different demos: http://www.sibvisions.com/jvxmdemo

especially:
http://demo.sibvisions.org/showcase/
or http://demo.sibvisions.org/showcase/webui.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another RIA framework, but not only RIA, is JVx. It supports Single Sourcing and has AddOns for Android devices.</p>
<p>There are different demos: <a href="http://www.sibvisions.com/jvxmdemo" >http://www.sibvisions.com/jvxmdemo</a></p>
<p>especially:<br />
<a href="http://demo.sibvisions.org/showcase/" >http://demo.sibvisions.org/showcase/</a><br />
or <a href="http://demo.sibvisions.org/showcase/webui.html" >http://demo.sibvisions.org/showcase/webui.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-16074</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, that survives, thanks Glen. Agree with the Hello World and simplicity outlook. In fact, here&#039;s my Hello World Fun post  http://goowealth.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/hello-world-fun/
(may update). Writing this post makes me appreciate simplicity even more so. 
Now, if we put these important elements into the equation, what do we get? 
1. Open source/GPL/no-feature-limitations
2. So simple, possible just click and drag on an Obvious-Hello-World-Example
4. Rich features and embracing other techno.
3. Strong Community Forum Support/No-or-few-unresponsive-nonreply

(I&#039;m new and not expert in RIA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rich_Internet_application_frameworks didn&#039;t have Jquery or Sencha? Nor have I exhausted the list.

I&#039;like to think forum support and prompt replies is as effective as googling web job applicants&#039; online apps rather than just read their resumes. From what I saw based on this alone, Zkoss wins.

Maybe my vote on RIA list goes to zkoss for now. Forum is active and java script supports ruby, features rich, possible GUI programming to some extend. 

Welcome new suggestions too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, that survives, thanks Glen. Agree with the Hello World and simplicity outlook. In fact, here&#8217;s my Hello World Fun post  <a href="http://goowealth.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/hello-world-fun/" >http://goowealth.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/hello-world-fun/</a><br />
(may update). Writing this post makes me appreciate simplicity even more so.<br />
Now, if we put these important elements into the equation, what do we get?<br />
1. Open source/GPL/no-feature-limitations<br />
2. So simple, possible just click and drag on an Obvious-Hello-World-Example<br />
4. Rich features and embracing other techno.<br />
3. Strong Community Forum Support/No-or-few-unresponsive-nonreply</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m new and not expert in RIA)<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rich_Internet_application_frameworks" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rich_Internet_application_frameworks</a> didn&#8217;t have Jquery or Sencha? Nor have I exhausted the list.</p>
<p>I&#8217;like to think forum support and prompt replies is as effective as googling web job applicants&#8217; online apps rather than just read their resumes. From what I saw based on this alone, Zkoss wins.</p>
<p>Maybe my vote on RIA list goes to zkoss for now. Forum is active and java script supports ruby, features rich, possible GUI programming to some extend. </p>
<p>Welcome new suggestions too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Yogi</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-14990</link>
		<dc:creator>Yogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Glen, even today your review is one of the best exists.
I completely agree with your attitude to this, especially regarding the first impression, hello world and eat your own ...
When starting a project I won&#039;t spend half of it researching the web, if an RIA provider can&#039;t impress me quickly with how easy to use their framework is an the way it looks in the end then it only means it won&#039;t be easy to use and it&#039;ll look like a command line app in he end.
Thanks again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Glen, even today your review is one of the best exists.<br />
I completely agree with your attitude to this, especially regarding the first impression, hello world and eat your own &#8230;<br />
When starting a project I won&#8217;t spend half of it researching the web, if an RIA provider can&#8217;t impress me quickly with how easy to use their framework is an the way it looks in the end then it only means it won&#8217;t be easy to use and it&#8217;ll look like a command line app in he end.<br />
Thanks again</p>
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		<title>By: Laszlo Rekasi</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-14829</link>
		<dc:creator>Laszlo Rekasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! Meantime I tried to take a deeper look. May I ask you why you prefer ExtJS instead of f.i. ExtGWT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! Meantime I tried to take a deeper look. May I ask you why you prefer ExtJS instead of f.i. ExtGWT?</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Lipka</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-14827</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Lipka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Laszlo: ExtJS (Sencha) is my favorite.</description>
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		<title>By: Laszlo Rekasi</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-14826</link>
		<dc:creator>Laszlo Rekasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Looking for an IDE for creating RIA with the following features:
* wyswyg editor
* the app is browser and opsys independent as much as possible
* creating apps for enterprise environment
* sandbox - for local storage: saving bulk data -&gt; less datatransfer, immediate data
* charts: clickable objects encapsulated for drilling
* the app created can be secured
* advantage: &quot;portal&quot; layout, meaning I can drag&amp;drop webboxes
* databinding via webservices (pref JSON) or &quot;gets&quot;
* styling
Now I see ZK and Qooxdoo to be good for me for the first sight. 
Could you please recomend me something?
Thank you in advance!
L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Looking for an IDE for creating RIA with the following features:<br />
* wyswyg editor<br />
* the app is browser and opsys independent as much as possible<br />
* creating apps for enterprise environment<br />
* sandbox &#8211; for local storage: saving bulk data -&gt; less datatransfer, immediate data<br />
* charts: clickable objects encapsulated for drilling<br />
* the app created can be secured<br />
* advantage: &#8220;portal&#8221; layout, meaning I can drag&amp;drop webboxes<br />
* databinding via webservices (pref JSON) or &#8220;gets&#8221;<br />
* styling<br />
Now I see ZK and Qooxdoo to be good for me for the first sight.<br />
Could you please recomend me something?<br />
Thank you in advance!<br />
L.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Lipka</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-14223</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Lipka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 16:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I didn&#039;t know about it at the time.  This review is pretty old at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I didn&#8217;t know about it at the time.  This review is pretty old at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul Rahim</title>
		<link>http://commadot.com/ria-frameworks/#comment-14169</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdul Rahim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 17:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct - Engineers are usually not good interaction designers. But, Good Interaction Designers are UI Engineers!!! Apple &amp; Microsoft has proved this.

I wonder you didnot mention about Vaadin (http://vaadin.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct &#8211; Engineers are usually not good interaction designers. But, Good Interaction Designers are UI Engineers!!! Apple &amp; Microsoft has proved this.</p>
<p>I wonder you didnot mention about Vaadin (<a href="http://vaadin.com" >http://vaadin.com</a>)</p>
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