Comments on: The UX Firefox 3 beta 1 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1 UX = User Experience by Glen Lipka Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:42:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: The UX of Firefox 3 (RC) | commadot.com http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-10270 The UX of Firefox 3 (RC) | commadot.com Mon, 19 May 2008 16:09:26 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-10270 [...] just posted a Release Candidate of Firefox 3.  I had installed a beta a while back but things have changed much.  The browser doesn’t crash on me anymore, but more [...] [...] just posted a Release Candidate of Firefox 3.  I had installed a beta a while back but things have changed much.  The browser doesn’t crash on me anymore, but more [...]

]]> By: Francis http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2660 Francis Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:58:21 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2660 On the firebug note, there is a Firebug 1.1 beta on the works and it work on Firefox 3 Beta 1. Without further ado, you can find it at http://fireclipse.xucia.com/#Downloads. Have fun! On the firebug note, there is a Firebug 1.1 beta on the works and it work on Firefox 3 Beta 1. Without further ado, you can find it at http://fireclipse.xucia.com/#Downloads.

Have fun!

]]> By: Glen Lipka http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2656 Glen Lipka Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:25:18 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2656 Come on, be serious. I've tried both of those tools. Neither one compares to Firebug. I want to change CSS on the fly, not just one attribute, but a whole class. I want to edit the live html. I want to profile. I want to debug js. I want to put in breakpoints and watch expressions. I want to see which script and which css line everything is on. Those other tools just don't have the power. (Say it like Scotty) Come on, be serious. I’ve tried both of those tools. Neither one compares to Firebug. I want to change CSS on the fly, not just one attribute, but a whole class. I want to edit the live html. I want to profile. I want to debug js. I want to put in breakpoints and watch expressions. I want to see which script and which css line everything is on.

Those other tools just don’t have the power. (Say it like Scotty)

]]> By: Ben Bodien http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2655 Ben Bodien Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:51:08 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2655 @Glen: Seek, and ye shall find ;) http://www.westciv.com/xray/ http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/CompanionJS/HomePage @Glen: Seek, and ye shall find ;)

http://www.westciv.com/xray/
http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/CompanionJS/HomePage

]]> By: Glen Lipka http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2654 Glen Lipka Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:38:17 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2654 @Ben. True, true. I am whining a bit. I am just cranky because I hate testing things cross-browser. Right now I need things to work in IE6, IE7, FF2(Win/Mac), FF3(Soon), Safari and Opera, although I don't often test Opera. It's not that I think FF should stop development. I just want these browser developers to think about us poor souls who need to create and develop in their tools. To pick on Microsoft, why isn't there a Firebug clone for IE. The Dev toolbar is pathetic in comparison. Why aren't there profilers for IE? I am being a cranky developer. You got me. @Ben. True, true. I am whining a bit. I am just cranky because I hate testing things cross-browser. Right now I need things to work in IE6, IE7, FF2(Win/Mac), FF3(Soon), Safari and Opera, although I don’t often test Opera. It’s not that I think FF should stop development. I just want these browser developers to think about us poor souls who need to create and develop in their tools.

To pick on Microsoft, why isn’t there a Firebug clone for IE. The Dev toolbar is pathetic in comparison. Why aren’t there profilers for IE?

I am being a cranky developer. You got me.

]]> By: Ben Bodien http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2648 Ben Bodien Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:24:44 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2648 Come now Glen, the extension icompatibility issue has always been the case for pre-release versions of Firefox, and it's not the fault of the Mozilla team. Both Firebug and Web Developer are third party plugins, and the onus is on their independent developers to release FF3 compatible versions, not the Firefox dev team. Doubtless their developers are working on this already, and rest assured that by the time FF3 is final, both of these extensions will be ready to use with it. The beta is not just for end-users to test, it's also to give extension devs a head start ahead of the final release date. If they didn't release betas in this way, you'd have installed the final version of FF3 and then be waiting a couple of weeks for the first extensions to be updatable. Come now Glen, the extension icompatibility issue has always been the case for pre-release versions of Firefox, and it’s not the fault of the Mozilla team.

Both Firebug and Web Developer are third party plugins, and the onus is on their independent developers to release FF3 compatible versions, not the Firefox dev team. Doubtless their developers are working on this already, and rest assured that by the time FF3 is final, both of these extensions will be ready to use with it.

The beta is not just for end-users to test, it’s also to give extension devs a head start ahead of the final release date. If they didn’t release betas in this way, you’d have installed the final version of FF3 and then be waiting a couple of weeks for the first extensions to be updatable.

]]> By: Glen Lipka http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2642 Glen Lipka Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:43:42 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2642 Thanks Asa. Wow, the instructions are downright archaic. Command Line Interface?? That's crazy talk. :) Thanks Asa. Wow, the instructions are downright archaic. Command Line Interface?? That’s crazy talk. :)

]]> By: Asa Dotzler http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2638 Asa Dotzler Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:31:47 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2638 http://lifehacker.com/software/firefox/geek-to-live--manage-multiple-firefox-profiles-231646.php Just install them to separate directories and create two profiles. - A http://lifehacker.com/software/firefox/geek-to-live–manage-multiple-firefox-profiles-231646.php

Just install them to separate directories and create two profiles.

- A

]]> By: Gabe http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2637 Gabe Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:28:12 +0000 http://commadot.com/the-ux-firefox-3-beta-1/#comment-2637 Amen, can we please make it easy on developers by allowing us to install two versions at once? I found a decent way to run multiple versions of IE, but this wasn't until months after the release of IE7 (I'm on a different machine than normal so I forget the name of the program, but it's one of the first results from a Google search.) I would have thought Firefox would have gotten this figured out. I'll hold off for now installing FF3, but I'm excited for it to get more stabilized and let all the plugins catch up to it! Amen, can we please make it easy on developers by allowing us to install two versions at once? I found a decent way to run multiple versions of IE, but this wasn’t until months after the release of IE7 (I’m on a different machine than normal so I forget the name of the program, but it’s one of the first results from a Google search.) I would have thought Firefox would have gotten this figured out. I’ll hold off for now installing FF3, but I’m excited for it to get more stabilized and let all the plugins catch up to it!

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